STUTTGART, Germany (AP) -- The expectation of seeing Lionel Messi line up against Cristiano Ronaldo in the Champions League final, of seeing Barcelona and Real Madrid fight for supremacy, is all but washed away. In the place of seeing Spain's two mightiest groups play for the initial trophy in club football, it is far more likely that the German groups Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund can meet for the subject May possibly 25 at Wembley Stadium. With Messi still nursing a injury, Barcelona was completely outplayed by Bayern on Tuesday in Munich, losing 4-0. About the next day, Real Madrid was humbled 4-1 by Dortmund, with Ronaldo rating his team's single purpose and Robert Lewandowski stunning for four for his staff. That's German groups 8, Spanish clubs 1. And in terms of European soccer during the last few years, that's an extremely big deal. ''It is the evolution of football,'' said Andres Iniesta, a Barcelona player who groups with Messi and Xavi Hernandez to create up perhaps the most dreaded group in the sport. ''We need to increase so we can keep fighting for titles in every competition.'' Madrid and Barcelona could still reach the last, but do not depend on it. The 2nd legs of the semifinals are a few weeks in Spain. Barcelona must gain by five goals to advance, or at least match the 4-0 cause drive extra time. Madrid gets the easier way, seeking a 3-0 win to progress on away objectives. At this time of the competition, nevertheless, that has never been done. And so the likelihood is that Bundesliga champion Bayern is likely to be playing for its sixth European Cup against Dortmund, the team that won the final two league games in Germany. ''There isn't any antidote for this amazing Bundesliga that is incredible the baseball world,'' wrote Jose Samano, the main basketball writer for the Spanish daily El Pais. ''Barcelona, the maximum of teams of modern times, did not have the solution on Tuesday, nor did Madrid last night, a giant that appeared to have appeared in top form heading toward its 10th European Cup with an exceptional universe of players and a coach with a greater status than every other. Both were explained over.'' Real Madrid may be the most effective group in European Cup record with eight brands, but has not reached the final since earning in 2002. Barcelona has gained four, including three since 2006. Neither made the final a year ago, with Barcelona losing to Chelsea in the semifinals and Madrid slipping to Bayern. Chelsea then beat Bayern in the final. It would be further evidence that the Bundesliga might be the best group in Europe, If there is a first all-German final this year. Bayern has been peaking recent years seasons and could be in its next final in four seasons, the last being that agonizing loss to Chelsea on penalty kicks while playing in the home. The Munich team has invested neatly since, incorporating muscle and size in signing opponent Dante and midfielder Javi Martinez in addition to striker Mario Mandzukic. Dortmund is more of a surprise. The club won the Champions League in 1997, barely escaped bankruptcy in 2005 and couldn't pass the party phase last time. In 2013, it is the sole undefeated group in the Champions League. Although the winning goal originated from an offside position it beat still another Spanish membership, Malaga, in the quarterfinals. So with German clubs increasing and Spanish clubs showing to stagnate, there's much talk about a change in power. ''This is not the finish of an ' Barcelona Vice President Josep Bartomeu informed Catalunya Radio on Thursday. ''There is really a design to the membership and it will keep on. We should go forward with the same foundation that we have today. New people will occur. There are particular positions that we need certainly to strengthen. That's the way in which of things.'' But age could possibly be just one aspect in the change. The Bundesliga has 18 clubs, two fewer games are meant by fewer than other top leagues, which. And unlike many others, it takes an extended cold temperatures break, giving people a chance to recover. Also, German Cup matches are one-leg matters, also indicating fewer activities. Globally, Germans have been looking up to Spain for years: Germany lost the 2008 European Championship final to Spain and fell again to the Spaniards in the 2010 World Cup semifinals. Now, the Germans could have moved past their role models. ''Amazing. In two days, the two best students of the course have already been brushed aside in Germany,'' columnist Alfredo Relano wrote in the Spanish sports daily AS. Possibly the most striking exemplory instance of the ascendancy of German clubs is that Pep Guardiola, a Barcelona star player and greatly successful instructor, will take over at Bayern next year. Barcelona won 14 out of 19 possible titles in his four years in Spain. But despite this week's outcome, Guardiola's old team is not going to stop trying so quickly. ''When things don't go your path you've to count to 10, wait until everyone calms down just a little, and take the time to consider and use reason,'' Iniesta said. ''If we wish to keep competitive like we have been and struggle for titles, we need certainly to improve a lot of things for the simple reason that to keep on winning you always have to obtain better.'' In a few days, Barcelona will need to be a lot better when they wish to progress. Madrid, also. --- Connected Press author Joseph Wilson in Barcelona, Spain, brought to this statement.
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